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Old 21-11-2011, 07:42 AM   #121
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few comments and contributions:

1. When you put some memory on "Powerchip" - please describe what sort of Powerchip does it actually use ... because you can't compare the "good" stuff like XD_ or XE_ to newer TH_ or TG_. From my personal findings, second letter defines some sort of revision (D->E->F->G->H->J) and modules within same revision (for example, XDE,XDT,XDY) overclock the same way, give or take the typical fluctiation.

2. Corsair Dominator GT 1600 7-7-7:
2.1A = Hypers, 2.1 = Elpida BASE-DJ-F (crappy clockers), 2.2 = Elpida BBSE

3. You put F3-16000CL8T-6GBPS (3x2GB) on BBSE. It's very hard for BBSE to do 1000 tRCD8 so I think they are all Hypers ... unless you prove me wrong with a valid example.

4. You put F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS (2x2GB) on Powerchip. Again, no way PSC will do 1066 tRCD9 so they are most likely BBSE-DJ-F.

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G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 7-7-7-24 @ 1.60V (F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH)
Elpida BBSE-DJ-F (sometimes relabeled)

G.Skill PI 1600 8-8-8-21 @ 1.60-1.65V (F3-12800CL8T-3GBPI-B)
Samsung HCF0

Kingston HyperX 1800 8-8-8-24 @ 1.90V (KHX14400D3K2/2G)
Samsung HCF0

Exceleram Red Culvert 1600 6-8-6-24 @ 1.65V (ERB300A)
PSC XEH

Exceleram 1600 7-10-10-24 @ 1.65V (E30110A)
some Elpida

Exceleram 1600 9-9-9-24 @ 1.65V (E30101B)
some Elpida

Exceleram 1866 9-11-9-27 @ 1.65V (E30135A)
PSC THS

G.Skill Ripjaws 1333 9-9-9-24 @ 1.50V (F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL)
Micron D9LGK

G.Skill Eco 1600 7-8-7-24 @ 1.35V (F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO)
PSC XFB

Kingston HyperX 1600 9-9-9-27 @ 1.65V (KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX)
Elpida BFSE-DJ-F

Kingston HyperX 1600 9-9-9-27 @ 1.65V (KHX1600C9AD3B1K2/4G)
Elpida BFSE-DJ-F

Kingston HyperX 1800 9-9-9-27 @ 1.7-1.9V (KHX1800C9D3K2/4G)
Elpida BDBG

Kingston HyperX Genesis 1866 11-11-11-31 @ 1.50V (KHX1866C11D3P1K2/4G)
Hynix BFR

Kingston HyperX T1 2000 9-9-9-27 @ 1.65V (KHX2000C9AD3T1K2/4GX)
Elpida BDSE

Mushkin Blackline 1600 7-8-7-20 @ 1.65V (996679)
PSC XDY

OCZ Flex XLC 1600 7-6-6 @ 1.9V (OCZ3FXE1600EB4GK)
OCZ Flex XLC 2000 8-8-8 @ 2.0V (OCZ3FXE20004GK)
both D9GT-something
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Old 24-11-2011, 07:09 AM   #122
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PS I had read that the 1333 cas 9 dominators ver 2.1 are hyper,
this is not true, I have pulled spreader and some is bdbg and some is babg (4 sticks out of 16 where hyper) but all are marked 2.1
So far there was only one report of them being Hypers ( post #95 ), at those specs I'd have expected different chips on them though. What did you achieve with your kits? Did you post results somewhere?

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1. When you put some memory on "Powerchip" - please describe what sort of Powerchip does it actually use ... because you can't compare the "good" stuff like XD_ or XE_ to newer TH_ or TG_. From my personal findings, second letter defines some sort of revision (D->E->F->G->H->J) and modules within same revision (for example, XDE,XDT,XDY) overclock the same way, give or take the typical fluctiation.
Check the posts I made in this thread, I've always written down the entire name of the chip.

2. Corsair Dominator GT 1600 7-7-7:
2.1A = Hypers, 2.1 = Elpida BASE-DJ-F (crappy clockers), 2.2 = Elpida BBSE
Thanks!

3. You put F3-16000CL8T-6GBPS (3x2GB) on BBSE. It's very hard for BBSE to do 1000 tRCD8 so I think they are all Hypers ... unless you prove me wrong with a valid example.
You're right, I remember someone say he had a kit with BBSE on them, however I can't find a pic now, only one with MGH-E ICs. I might be confusing it with the CL9 kit.... Maybe it's better to change the kit to MGH-E/MNH-E only.

4. You put F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS (2x2GB) on Powerchip. Again, no way PSC will do 1066 tRCD9 so they are most likely BBSE-DJ-F.
I have a pic of them ( in fact PS 2133 9-9-9 kit ) with remarked ICs and I thought they were all remarked PSC ICs. They might be Elpida chips after all, but the pic is not clear enough to use your method of identifying the chip.
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Old 24-11-2011, 08:57 AM   #123
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Check the posts I made in this thread, I've always written down the entire name of the chip.
I don't deny that it's mentioned in this thread, but I'd love to see it in the RAMlist as well, that's all
I thought they were all remarked PSC ICs
This could be due to the fact that back in the day we thought that all ICs with no clear markings were PSC
Seriously, PSC from XD_, XE_ and XF_ series usually crap out at ~1000MHz tRCD9 (be it 6-9-6 or 8-9-8), few ones make it past 1030, best ones I ever saw were ~1050. I strongly doubt G.SKill could have binned enough of those to sell as "guaranteed 1066 tRCD9" when they had a more obvious substitute (BBSE) available.
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Old 29-11-2011, 09:42 AM   #124
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This could be due to the fact that back in the day we thought that all ICs with no clear markings were PSC
Seriously, PSC from XD_, XE_ and XF_ series usually crap out at ~1000MHz tRCD9 (be it 6-9-6 or 8-9-8), few ones make it past 1030, best ones I ever saw were ~1050. I strongly doubt G.SKill could have binned enough of those to sell as "guaranteed 1066 tRCD9" when they had a more obvious substitute (BBSE) available.
Since the comparable Perfect Storm kit is already listed as BBSE, I think the Trident kit should be changed as well, your reasoning makes sense and I can't find a pic of it with real PSC chips, only OEM stuff.

You just have to wait for Ron to make the changes!
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Old 29-11-2011, 03:07 PM   #125
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Not sure if this is the right spot but I have Ripjaw X (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL) with chips marked
E117V8CR941A, and I can't seem to find any info on them.

Any ideas?
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Old 29-11-2011, 11:23 PM   #126
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Not sure if this is the right spot but I have Ripjaw X (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL) with chips marked
E117V8CR941A, and I can't seem to find any info on them.

Any ideas?
Those are relabeled Elpida chips. I'll add them to the list.

@Sam OCX & Don_Dan: Seems like more people would like to see this happen, so I'll have a look into it. Thanks.

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Old 30-11-2011, 03:16 AM   #127
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Not sure if this is the right spot but I have Ripjaw X (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL) with chips marked
E117V8CR941A, and I can't seem to find any info on them.

Any ideas?
Check this thread, it's an OEM chip from either Elpida or PSC. Can you take a photo of the chip please?

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Those are relabeled Elpida chips. I'll add them to the list.
You're probably right, most likely it's the same chip that is used on Corsair's v2.12 kits, but theoretically it could be a relabeled/OEM PSC chip as well.

Some more:

G.Skill:

PC3-17066 Ripjaws Z 9-11-10-28 @ 1.65V Hynix H5TQ2G83CFR-H9C
F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH (4x4GB)

PC3-19200 Ripjaws Z 9-11-10-28 @ 1.65V Hynix H5TQ2G83BFR-H9C
F3-19200CL9Q-16GBZHD (4x4GB)

PC3-19200 Ripjaws Z 8-11-10-31 @ 1.65V PSC
F3-19200CL8Q-8GBZHD (4x2GB)

There are just too many versions of the Ripjaws Z series, all of them are probably using some sort of Hynix chip.

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Old 30-11-2011, 10:25 AM   #128
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will get some shots up in a few
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