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Old 11-05-2007, 11:50 AM   #9
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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Asus P5K Deluxe Transaction Booster


Next feature to look in bios is Transaction Booster. This function seems to boost memtest86+ v1.70 reported memory bandwidth. By default Transaction Booster is set to AUTO, but when Enabled or Disabled a sub menu appears in the form of levels. When enabled, Transaction Booster gives you an option to select 2 Boost levels of 0 or 1. When disabled, Transaction Booster gives you an option to select 3 different Relaxed levels between 0-3 - level 0 at least looks the same as AUTO set Transaction Booster in memtest86+ v1.70 bandwidth.



Using 9x400FSB 1:1 4-4-4-4 settings below:

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 102
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 4
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: AUTO or Disabled Relax 0 or Enabled Boost 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.4375
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)
Transaction Booster Disabled - Relax level 0



Transaction Booster Enabled - Boost level 1



Now how Transaction Booster AUTO vs Enabled Boost level 1 compare for Super Pi 32M

AUTO set = 14m 53.813s


Enabled Boost Level 1 set = 14m 45.531s


Transaction Booster Enabled Level 1 is 0.915% or 8.182 seconds faster than when set to AUTO!





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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield
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Corsair Nautilus 500 H20 cooled 3/8"


Alot of folks have asked what about kenstfield quad core cpus on Asus P5K Deluxe ? So decided to swap out my E6600 B1 ES cpu for my Q6600 QUPT B3 ES cpu.

But I know that the external water cooling unit Corsair Hydrocool 200EX with 1/4" OD tubing I'm currently using won't be able to handle Kentsfield quad core. So changed the cpu cooling to a Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID tubing based external water cooling unit which was kindly supplied by the folks at Corsair



Corsair Nautilus 500 coolant vs Corsair Hydrocool 200EX coolant



To illustrate the tubing sizes from left to right:
Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID vs Corsair Hydrocool 200EX 1/4" OD vs Clearflex 3/8" ID vs Clearflex 1/2" ID tubing





Let's compare stock Q6600 temperatures on P5K Deluxe with Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" tubing with Q6600 on P5B Deluxe with Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill HE120.E/MCP650 1/2" tubing setups.

Q6600 stock clock/vcore with P5B Deluxe
Swiftech G4 Storm + Thermochill HE120.3 (3x120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm) + MCP650


Room temps = 21.0C - 24.5C
Idle temps = 22.0C - 27.0C
Load temps = 37C - 43C
Load room delta temps = 16C - 22C
Load cpu load - cpu idle delta temps = 15-21C

Idle:


Load:


vs


Q6600 stock clock/vcore with P5K Deluxe
Corsair Nautilus 500 with fan set on high speed ~1800rpm


Room temps = 27.5C - 28.5C
Idle temps = 43.0C - 47.0C
Load temps = 56C - 62C
Load room delta temps = 28.5C - 34.5C
Load cpu load - cpu idle delta temps = 13C - 19C

Idle:


Load:


Looks like Nautilus 500 is behind my custom DIY - Swiftech G4 Storm setup by at least 12C. This is as expected considering the huge difference in ambient room temperatures, size of radiator and fan setups. Swiftech G4 Storm setup has a triple fan radiation Thermochill HE120.3 and 3x 120x38mm thick Panaflo 103cfm fans versus Corsair Nautilus 500's single low cfm fan and much smaller radiator. To illustrate the difference here's Q6600 @3500Mhz at 1.472v idle/1.408v load on P5B Deluxe using Swiftech G4 Storm setup with 25-27C room ambients resulted in 31-37C idle and 60-68C load temps.

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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Q6600 Kentsfield @3600Mhz
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Corsair Nautilus 500 H20 cooled 3/8"


My Q6600 B3 ES Kentsfield quad core cpu 24/7 stable clock on Asus P5B Deluxe is 3600Mhz at 1.456v with Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill HE120.3/MCP650 with 60-68C coretemp reported load temps. From above comparison between the Storm/Thermochill HE120.3/MCP650 vs Corsair Nautilus we can see that at 3600Mhz temps will be alot higher on the Corsair Nautilus. How high ? Let's find out

Q6600 @3600Mhz - 9x400FSB 1:1 at 1.475v bios set vcore with CPU Voltage Damper enabled gave me windows idle temps of

Idle @1.475v bios set



However, the 2nd core = core1 failed quad Prime95 v25.1 smallFFTs load testing even at 1.475v or 1.4875v.

Idle @1.4875v bios set



Load @1.4875v bios set



Failed core1 @1.4875v bios set



Post Load Idle @1.4875v bios set



Roasty at upto 86C coretemp reported load temps! Might have to try remounting Corsair Nautilus 500 waterblock a few times to make sure it's making proper contact

Still @3600Mhz at 1.4875v bios set vcore, it manages to complete Systool Quad 16M Pi benchmark fine though. This is a good indicator of being able to complete Super Pi 32M at least even though not Quad Prime95 v25.1 small FFTs stable

Systool Quad 16M Pi Halfway mark


Systool Quad 16M Pi Completed

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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Q6600 B3 ES @3600Mhz - 9x400FSB 1:1


While Q6600 @3600Mhz at 1.475v bios set wasn't prime95 stable, it still managed to complete single, dual and quad 32M probably due to the lower heat output compared with prime95 smallFFTs.

System
  • Q6600 QUPT B3 Step 7
  • Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID
  • Asus P5K Deluxe 0304 bios
  • 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
  • 2x1GB Super Talent T1000UB1G5 Singles Micron D9GKX
  • 74GB WD Raptor 8MB on SATA 1 port
  • Pioneer DVR-08 Burner
  • Sony FDD
  • 1KW PCP&C SLI psu
  • WinXP Pro SP2

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 102
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 4
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Enabled
Boost Level: 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.475v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)
Super Pi v1.50 Single instances


1M


8M


32M


Super Pi v1.50 Dual instances


8M


32M


Super Pi v1.50 Quad instances


8M


32M



Quick bench before I sleep

Highest Q6600 FSB I've had to date thanks to Asus P5K Deluxe! (will try higher FSB later)




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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Q6600 B3 ES - Max FSB


From above quick 8x450FSB test you can see Asus P5K Deluxe has much better Kentsfield Quad core FSB headroom. I've seen other P5K Deluxe folks with QX6700 @480-500+ FSB. So now to see what my Q6600 B3 ES can do FSB wise.

I usually start off with Systool V1.0 728 build Quad 16M Pi test (uses 1.3GB of memory - the Quad 32M test uses 2.6+ GB of memory) to test max FSB for my Q6600. If it fails it usually aborts the test or reboots the system.

With below settings max FSB was around 7x470FSB

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
FSB Frequency: 470
PCI-E Frequency: 102
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 4
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Enabled
Boost Level: 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.4125v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.25
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)
Change CPU PLL Voltage from 1.50v to 1.60v allowed me to boot into windows 7x480FSB otherwise with 1.50v would BSOD on entering windows. Upping NB Volts from 1.4v to 1.55v allowed 7x480FSB

CPU Voltage: 1.4125v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
DRAM Voltage: 2.25
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO
Upping Vcore to 1.4375v allowed 7x485FSB

CPU Voltage: 1.4375v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
DRAM Voltage: 2.25
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO
7x490FSB is turning out to be tricky to achieve, Quad Systool V1.0 728 build 16M Pi benchmark will reboot the system even quicker if you raise vcore from 1.4375v to 1.45v. Similar thing happened on P5B Deluxe but at 400-425FSB ceiling when vcore past a certain point reduced max stable FSB.

Q6600 @3395Mhz - 7x485FSB


Here's where I ended up for single and dual Super Pi runs at 7x485FSB 1:1 )



Single Super Pi 32M


Dual Super Pi 32M




Q6600 B3 ES @3800Mhz - 8x475FSB


Amazing indeed with Asus P5K Deluxe, I've pushed my Q6600 to a new high - being able to run single and dual Super Pi 32M @3800Mhz - 8x475FSB !

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
PCI-E Frequency: 102
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 4
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Enabled
Boost Level: 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.5375v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
DRAM Voltage: 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)


Single Super Pi 32M


Dual Super Pi 32M


Looks like Corsair Nautilus 500 can handle it

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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Testing Corsair TwinX-2048 10000C5DF Dominators right now on Asus P5K Deluxe and these modules are crazy.. I have never experienced 534Mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.1v vdimm before!


Quad Prime95 v25.1 Blend test


More tests to come later

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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Time for some suicide runs for my Q6600 on Asus P5K Deluxe since overnight room temps dropped a nice 6C so I thought I'd go for broke

At high FSB we have Q6600 @3907Mhz - 8x488FSB



Had a faster run of 11.235 seconds but didn't take screenie - went to i4memory.com hwbot team though


At default 9x multiplier we have Q6600 @9x443FSB via setFSB



Now this I consider fast considering Kentsfield quad core B3 stepping is slower than core2 duo B2 stepping for Super Pi!



Did get a cpuz screen at 4037Mhz at 1.592v but didn't save properly heh.

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Re: Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES

Next up is testing my X6800 L627A872 cpu



First to compare stock speed/vcore load temperatures for the same cpu on Asus P5B Deluxe with custom high end cooling from past tests versus Asus P5K Deluxe with all in one external Corsair Nautilus 500 unit.

System
All temps are reported from Coretemp app while running quad Prime95 v25.1 small FFTs load tests.

X6800 on Asus P5B Deluxe
Custom Water cooling: Swiftech G4 Storm
Thermochill HE120.E 3x120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm fans
MCP650 1/2" tubing

==========================================================
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 L627A872
Asus P5B Deluxe
1KW OCZ ProXstream psu

CPU Cooling = Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill HE120.E 3x120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm fans/MCP650 1/2" tubing

-----------------------------------------------------
@stock 2.93Ghz at 1.325v bios
Room temp = 24-26C
Idle = 31-32C @vcore idle = 1.288v
Load = 40-41C @vcore load = 1.268v

Load to room temp delta = 15C - 17C
Load to cpu ide temp delta = 9C - 10C

My stable clock of 3600Mhz needed 1.38v vcore under load with coretemp load temps = 52C in 26C room temps (26C delta)

Stock Speed on P5B Deluxe:

CPU idle:


CPU Prime95 v25.1v small ffts load:


@3600Mhzon P5B Deluxe

Room temp = 26C

CPU idle:


CPU Prime95 v25.1v small ffts load:



X6800 on Asus P5K Deluxe
Cooling: Corsair Nautilus 500 H20 cooled 3/8" tubing

==========================================================
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 L627A872
Asus P5K Deluxe
1KW PCP&C SLI psu

CPU Cooling = Corsair Nautilus 500 H20 cooled 3/8" tubing

-----------------------------------------------------
@stock 2.93Ghz at 1.325v bios
Room temp = 28-31C
Idle = 46-50C @vcore idle = 1.304v
Load = 52-53C @vcore load = 1.304v

Load to room temp delta = 21.0C - 25.0C
Load to cpu ide temp delta = 3C - 17C

-----------------------------------------------------
Dropping vcore to match Asus P5B Deluxe rig system and did the load tests at varying room ambient temps:

@stock 2.93Ghz at 1.2875v bios
Room temp = 27-29.5C
Idle = 42-43C @vcore idle = 1.272v
Load = 50-52C @vcore load = 1.264v

Load to room temp delta = 21.5C - 25.0C
Load to cpu ide temp delta = 9C - 10C

-----------------------------------------------------
@stock 2.93Ghz at 1.2875v bios
Room temp = 25-27.5C
Idle = 35-38C @vcore idle = 1.272v
Load = 48-51C @vcore load = 1.264v

Load to room temp delta = 21.5C - 25.0C
Load to cpu ide temp delta = 9C - 10C

Unfortunately, my ideal clock of 3600Mhz couldn't quad prime95 stable at same voltages as my Swiftech G4 Storm custom water cooling setup. Room temps maybe a factor at up to 7+ C warmer as well as difference in size of radiator (1x 120mm rad vers 3x120mm rad) and the fans used.

1.38v = rebooted windows just before windows could load
1.40v = rebooted windows after 30 seconds of quad prime95 small ffts
1.432v = ran quad prime95 small ffts fine so far but hitting 63-67C coretemp load temps in 29.4C room temps (37.6C delta).

Stock Speed on P5K Deluxe:

CPU idle:


CPU Prime95 v25.1v small ffts load:


@3600Mhzon P5K Deluxe

Room temp = 25-27.5C

CPU idle:


CPU Prime95 v25.1v small ffts load:


==========================================================

Seems in terms of differences between delta cpu load to room ambient temps, the Corsair Nautilus 500 is around 6.5C to 8.0C behind my custom Swiftech G4 Storm water cooling setup for X6800 @2.93Ghz at 1.264-1.268v load temps and ~17C behind custom Swiftech G4 Storm water @3600Mhz due to needing more vdore, higher room ambient temps and differences in size of radiator and fans used. Not bad considering Corsair Nautilus 500 is around 40% cheaper at AUD$245-285 versus a custom setup like mine at approximately AUD$600-650!

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