Asus p6x58d-e (extreme) memory problems

gator81 · 01-06-2010, 04:08 AM

By Uncle Fester

i would reccomend using cpu-tweaker if cpu-z isnt working, also have you done fresh format sounds like your OS is fried, have you tried each ram stick on its own in the 2nd slot closets to your cpu and ensure all your ram sticks work ?? tried newer bios's ? Are you giving enough voltage to the VTT for running 12 sticks i would give 1.35 up to 1.4vtt and correct vdimm they should have 1.65v at a minimum i would reccomend 1.75 just to be sure.
Posting bios settings could be helpful mate.

I downloaded the cpu-tweaker, but it errors on me, so i will try again shortly. I am also trying to get snagit to do some really good screen snapshots and show more from the testing software.
As for testing the memory, it is running at 1.65v, and with this board, i was never able to get just one chip to load, it had to be at least 2 chips.
If things work out (which seem to never do) i am going to get some screen snapshots of the testing software, and i will use my wifes camera to show pics of the inside of my case.
The bios settings are all set at factory default right now, I did at one time change my memory setting to x.m.s, and forced the speed to 1066 even though i am using 1333 memory, afterwards i set everything back to factory, so i can get exact factory readings when showing my test.
Also there is no bios upgrade for this board as of this time, but i have been checking on the asus site regularly. There was an update for the p6x58d professional which says its a beta update and was to address memory issues. I also downloaded this beta, just to see if my board would reconize the file, and recieved the error that it was incompatable. I wouldnt of installed it anyway untill i knew for sure, but wanted to see for myself.

gator81 · 01-06-2010, 04:54 PM

here is the attachment file i was able to zip up. this is in txt format. This should give any info you are looking for. If you have any questions, please let me know and i will try to show the best i can.

eva2000 · 02-06-2010, 04:22 AM

looks like mixed kingston and micron memory (kingston probably use elpida ics) so could be problematic in itself ?

Code:

    Motherboard:
      CPU Type                                          QuadCore Intel Core i7 940, 3079 MHz (23 x 134)
      Motherboard Name                                  Unknown
      Motherboard Chipset                               Intel Tylersburg X58, Intel Nehalem
      System Memory                                     4087 MB  (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM)
      DIMM1: Micron 16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1                  2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM  (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz)  (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz)  (6-6-6-17 @ 457 MHz)  (5-5-5-14 @ 380 MHz)
      DIMM2: Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW                 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM  (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz)  (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz)  (6-6-6-17 @ 457 MHz)
      DIMM3: Micron 16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1                  2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM  (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz)  (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz)  (6-6-6-17 @ 457 MHz)  (5-5-5-14 @ 380 MHz)
      DIMM5: Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW                 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM  (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz)  (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz)  (6-6-6-17 @ 457 MHz)
      BIOS Type                                         AMI (03/23/10)

gator81 · 02-06-2010, 05:16 AM

Here is my delima then, I have more kingston and micron memory, but when i use them, they will not work on my board, but they did work in someone elses!
This was the best combanation that I was able to get to work togather.
I dont know if it shows this in the attachment, but the 4th chip is in the 4th slot, and the program tells me that its in the 5th slot.
I added a attachment of what it shows me. I will continue to try and do more testing as I can and follow up here, as I do get the fastest responces here then any other place that I have been trying.

eva2000 · 02-06-2010, 05:19 AM

sounds like board needs a bios update!

gator81 · 03-06-2010, 04:16 AM

I agree, oooooo i agree, so very much....BUT! Asus tec support tells me that their R&D dept in china "cannot" replicate the problem and they will "NOT" be updating the Bios. If they would do this, it would probally resolve the problem. You are now the 6th person who has said this

gator81 · 14-06-2010, 09:36 AM

I will try to post this correctly, but as of my last post, I wanted to pass on the info that I have.

1. There is a new bios update for this motherboard, released just a couple days ago

I have for the first time, seen 12 gigs of memory working on my computer. I have some of the memory chips, but the confusion seems to validate the statement on here that now all memory is true matched memory.

Code:

--------[ Motherboard ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Motherboard Properties:
      Motherboard ID                                    65-0303-000001-00101111-052510-TYLERSBURG$A1631001_BIOS DATE: 05/25/10 14:39:27 VER: 08.00.15
      Motherboard Name                                  Unknown
    Front Side Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          Intel QPI
      Real Clock                                        175 MHz
      Effective Clock                                   175 MHz
      QPI Clock                                         3150 MHz
    Memory Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          Triple DDR3 SDRAM
      Bus Width                                         192-bit
      DRAM:FSB Ratio                                    3:1
      Real Clock                                        526 MHz (DDR)
      Effective Clock                                   1052 MHz
      Bandwidth                                         25250 MB/s
    Chipset Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          Intel ESI
 
--------[ SPD ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  [ DIMM1: Micron 16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1 ]
    Memory Module Properties:
      Module Name                                       Micron 16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1
      Serial Number                                     E833EA90h (2431267816)
      Manufacture Date                                  Week 37 / 2009
      Module Size                                       2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
      Module Type                                       Unbuffered DIMM
      Memory Type                                       DDR3 SDRAM
      Memory Speed                                      DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
      Module Width                                      64 bit
      Error Detection Method                            None
      DRAM Manufacturer                                 Micron
    Memory Timings:
      @ 609 MHz                                         8-8-8-22  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-68-4-10-5-5  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 533 MHz                                         7-7-7-20  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-59-4-8-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 457 MHz                                         6-6-6-17  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-51-3-7-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 380 MHz                                         5-5-5-14  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 19-42-3-6-3-3  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    Memory Module Features:
      Auto Self Refresh                                 Supported
      Extended Temperature Range                        Supported
      Extended Temperature Refresh Rate                 Not Supported
      On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout                     Not Supported
    Memory Module Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Micron Technology, Inc.
      Product Information                               http://www.micron.com/products/modules
  [ DIMM2: Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW ]
    Memory Module Properties:
      Module Name                                       Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW
      Serial Number                                     2113D740h (1087836961)
      Manufacture Date                                  Week 1 / 2010
      Module Size                                       2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
      Module Type                                       Unbuffered DIMM
      Memory Type                                       DDR3 SDRAM
      Memory Speed                                      DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
      Module Width                                      64 bit
      Error Detection Method                            None
    Memory Timings:
      @ 609 MHz                                         8-8-8-22  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-68-4-10-5-5  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 533 MHz                                         7-7-7-20  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-59-4-8-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 457 MHz                                         6-6-6-17  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-51-3-7-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    Memory Module Features:
      Auto Self Refresh                                 Not Supported
      Extended Temperature Range                        Supported
      Extended Temperature Refresh Rate                 Not Supported
      On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout                     Not Supported
    Memory Module Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Kingston Technology Company, Inc.
      Product Information                               http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp
  [ DIMM3: Micron 16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1 ]
    Memory Module Properties:
      Module Name                                       Micron 16JTF25664AZ-1G4F1
      Serial Number                                     E833EA97h (2548708328)
      Manufacture Date                                  Week 37 / 2009
      Module Size                                       2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
      Module Type                                       Unbuffered DIMM
      Memory Type                                       DDR3 SDRAM
      Memory Speed                                      DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
      Module Width                                      64 bit
      Error Detection Method                            None
      DRAM Manufacturer                                 Micron
    Memory Timings:
      @ 609 MHz                                         8-8-8-22  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-68-4-10-5-5  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 533 MHz                                         7-7-7-20  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-59-4-8-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 457 MHz                                         6-6-6-17  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-51-3-7-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 380 MHz                                         5-5-5-14  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 19-42-3-6-3-3  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    Memory Module Features:
      Auto Self Refresh                                 Supported
      Extended Temperature Range                        Supported
      Extended Temperature Refresh Rate                 Not Supported
      On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout                     Not Supported
    Memory Module Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Micron Technology, Inc.
      Product Information                               http://www.micron.com/products/modules
  [ DIMM4: Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW ]
    Memory Module Properties:
      Module Name                                       Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW
      Serial Number                                     69323450h (1345598057)
      Manufacture Date                                  Week 47 / 2009
      Module Size                                       2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
      Module Type                                       Unbuffered DIMM
      Memory Type                                       DDR3 SDRAM
      Memory Speed                                      DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
      Module Width                                      64 bit
      Error Detection Method                            None
    Memory Timings:
      @ 609 MHz                                         8-8-8-22  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-68-4-10-5-5  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 533 MHz                                         7-7-7-20  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-59-4-8-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 457 MHz                                         6-6-6-17  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-51-3-7-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    Memory Module Features:
      Auto Self Refresh                                 Not Supported
      Extended Temperature Range                        Supported
      Extended Temperature Refresh Rate                 Not Supported
      On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout                     Not Supported
    Memory Module Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Kingston Technology Company, Inc.
      Product Information                               http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp
  [ DIMM5: Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW ]
    Memory Module Properties:
      Module Name                                       Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW
      Serial Number                                     23130D41h (1091375907)
      Manufacture Date                                  Week 1 / 2010
      Module Size                                       2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
      Module Type                                       Unbuffered DIMM
      Memory Type                                       DDR3 SDRAM
      Memory Speed                                      DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
      Module Width                                      64 bit
      Error Detection Method                            None
    Memory Timings:
      @ 609 MHz                                         8-8-8-22  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-68-4-10-5-5  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 533 MHz                                         7-7-7-20  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-59-4-8-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 457 MHz                                         6-6-6-17  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-51-3-7-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    Memory Module Features:
      Auto Self Refresh                                 Not Supported
      Extended Temperature Range                        Supported
      Extended Temperature Refresh Rate                 Not Supported
      On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout                     Not Supported
    Memory Module Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Kingston Technology Company, Inc.
      Product Information                               http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp
  [ DIMM6: Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW ]
    Memory Module Properties:
      Module Name                                       Kingston HP497157-C01-ELDW
      Serial Number                                     4A21184Eh (1310204234)
      Manufacture Date                                  Week 51 / 2009
      Module Size                                       2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
      Module Type                                       Unbuffered DIMM
      Memory Type                                       DDR3 SDRAM
      Memory Speed                                      DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
      Module Width                                      64 bit
      Error Detection Method                            None
    Memory Timings:
      @ 609 MHz                                         8-8-8-22  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-68-4-10-5-5  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 533 MHz                                         7-7-7-20  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-59-4-8-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
      @ 457 MHz                                         6-6-6-17  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-51-3-7-4-4  (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    Memory Module Features:
      Auto Self Refresh                                 Not Supported
      Extended Temperature Range                        Supported
      Extended Temperature Refresh Rate                 Not Supported
      On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout                     Not Supported
    Memory Module Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Kingston Technology Company, Inc.
      Product Information                               http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp

you will notice that there is different memory, and different dates for this memory, but luckly this all works togather on a stock setup.
I was also supprised that micron memory seems to support 4 frequencies and kingston only supports 3.
This seems to show me that with 6 chips it is harder to match, and it can be mixed with other memory, it is just something that allows the memory to work togather.

On the stock setup, i did run prime95 64bit version for 1 hour, and a couple of other test programs to make sure that this wouldnt just be a fluke.

eva2000 · 14-06-2010, 10:54 PM

Looks like Asus is paying more attention to bios updates so good to hear

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