Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + Intel E6600 B1 ES / Q6600 Kentsfield / X6800

eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

Asus P5K Deluxe - 0307 bios

Well it seems a new beta bios is out - 0307 bios. Helped a bit with stabilising my Corsair 10000C5D Dominators but still it seems the P5K Deluxe isn't allowing these Corsair 10000C5D Dominators from hitting their rated speeds of 625mhz 5-5-5-18. Best I gotten is around 600mhz 5-5-5-18 at 2.4v.

To confirm if there's a problem with the P5K Deluxe bios and/or Corsair 10000C5D Dominators, I will test my other Micron D9 based memory on the Asus P5K Deluxe and see how they fair as well.

I will start with flashing to 0307 bios and testing Teamgroup 6400C3 Micron D9GMH rated for DDR2-800 3-3-3-8. Decided to check out the effects of 3-3-3-8 vs 4-4-4-8 vs 5-5-5-8 @9x400FSB for Super Pi 32M.

Using 9x400FSB 1:1 settings below:

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 3 to 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 3 to 5
RAS# Precharge: 3 to 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 3 to 5
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Enabled
Boost Level: 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.450
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.30v, 2.20v, 2.10v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

@400Mhz 5-5-5-8 at 2.1v

@400Mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.2v

@400Mhz 3-3-3-8 at 2.3v

eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

Definitely, looks like cooling and/or room ambient temps are holding me back, every cpu I've tested on Asus P5K Deluxe needs 0.05v more vcore to hit the same clocks as well my Asus P5B Deluxe/Swiftech G4 Storm setup.

The same can be said for my X6800:

On P5B Deluxe/Swiftch G4 Storm = 3600mhz at 1.4v and 4000mhz at 1.616v for 32M and 4092mhz at 1.64v
On P5K Deluxe/Corsair Nautilus 500 = 3600mhz at 1.432-1.45v and 4000mhz at 1.6556v for 32M

X6800 L627A872 @4000Mhz
- 10x400FSB 1:1 400Mhz 3-3-3-8

Can only manage single 32M @4000Mhz on Asus P5K Deluxe using 0307 bios. Still broke 13m barrier easily though

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 10
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 3
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 3
RAS# Precharge: 3
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 3
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: Enabled
Boost Level: 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.6750
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 10
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

Mem dividers make a huge difference for faster Super Pi times

X6800 L627A872 @4000Mhz
- 10x400FSB 4:5 500Mhz 4-4-4-5

X6800 L627A872 @3994Mhz
- 9x444FSB 1:1 554Mhz 4-4-4-5

Higher FSB + Higher Mem clocks sometimes win over higher raw cpu clocks - 3994Mhz vs 4000Mhz above

Seems Team 6400C3 Micron D9GMH is the first set of modules I've tested on Asus P5K Deluxe to hit same max CAS4 4-4-4-5 timings as on Asus P5B Deluxe (P5K Deluxe has higher max CAS5 5-5-5-x than P5B Deluxe but lower max CAS4 4-4-4-x than P5B Deluxe for my Supertalent PC2-8000).

Team 6400C3 Micron D9GMH max 4-4-4-5 ended up same on Asus P5B Deluxe and P5K Deluxe now @580Mhz 4-4-4-5 at 2.45v.

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eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500
@600Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.2v

Next memory to test out are these fresh babies which arrived today = 2 sets of 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 modules

I plucked in the first pair and already I can tell these modules will overclock very nicely - out of the box 600Mhz 5-5-5-15 with AUTO sub timings at 2.20v vdimm on Asus P5K Deluxe!

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: AUTO
TRFC: AUTO
TWTR: AUTO
TRRD: AUTO
TRTP: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.4750
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.20v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

Single 32M

Dual 32M

Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500
@634Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.3v

Crazy memory to be able to hit 634Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.3v vdimm for dual Super Pi 32M!

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 423
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1269
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: AUTO
TRFC: AUTO
TWTR: AUTO
TRRD: AUTO
TRTP: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.5750
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

Single 32M

Dual 32M

eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

Asus P5K Deluxe - flashed from 0304 to 0311 official bios

Well I've flashed from 0307 beta bios to 0311 official bios from Asus' http download site (not the 0311 beta bios that was on Asus ftp sites a few days before). All went well with no problems so far. Failed overclock recovery seems to have gotten better than before and that was already very good to begin with!

Flashed within bios using Ez Flash2. I suggest using Ez Flash2 or Afudos for flashing bios and avoid using Asus Update in windows.

Now you ask, what changed in 0311 bios ? Official change log states:

P5K Deluxe Release BIOS 0311

Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx
Enhance device compatibility under AHCI mode

But it seems they also added Command Rate option in bios for 1T/2T. Only done limited tests with 1T for now but there is a boost in memtest86+ v1.70 reported bandwidth when 1T is enabled. I'll return later to test 1T out. Just want to see how 2T manually selected performs. I've swapped out my X6800 cpu into my Asus Commando for now, so returning to using my Q6600 B3 ES Kentsfield quad core cpu for 0311 official bios tests.

System

Q6600 QUPT B3 ES
Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID
Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 bios
128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
2x1GB Super Talent T1000UB1G5 Singles Micron D9GKX
74GB WD Raptor 8MB on SATA 1 port
Pioneer DVR-08 Burner
Sony FDD
1KW PCP&C SLI psu
WinXP Pro SP2

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1111
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 9 (resulted in higher memtest bandwidth than 5)
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.325v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.30
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.05

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

CPUZ Validation

Wprime v1.43

Cinebench 9.5

Prime95 v25.2
Blend load and post load idle

Everest Ultimate

Sandra XI SP2

Buffered

Unbuffered

Latency

Super Pi v1.50
Single & Dual 32M

Single 32M

Dual 32M

Note, this isn't the max performance of any component, just benchmarks and tests to see if 0311 official bios at least works

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eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

2GB Super Talent T1000UB1G5 Micron D9GKX Singles
@625Mhz 5-5-4-9 at 2.45v/2.50v

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 391
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1251
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 9 (resulted in higher memtest bandwidth than 5)
TWR: 8
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 8
TRRD: 8
TRTP: 8
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.475v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.45v and 2.50v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

P5K Deluxe 0311 bios definitely improved memory overlocking over 0304/0307 bios for my 2x1GB Super Talent T1000UB1G5 Singles Micron D9GKX.

Max single Super Pi 32M v1.50 for 2x1GB Super Talent T1000UB1G5 Singles Micron D9GKX:

605mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.35v and 600mhz 5-5-4-5 at 2.45v and 600mhz 5-4-4-4 at 2.60v on Asus P5B Deluxe 1101 bios
614mhz 5-5-5-5 at 2.45v on Asus P5K Deluxe 0304 bios, higher vdimm didn't help even for 5-4-4-x or loose 5-5-5-15
625mhz 5-5-4-9 at 2.50v on Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 official bios and benched other apps with 2.45v - I feel it can scale even more with more vdimm!

CPU Validation

Super Pi v1.50

Single 32M

wPrime v1.43

Cinebench 9.5

Nuclearus 2.0 RC1

Everest Ultimate

eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

Revisiting OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC but for first time on Asus P5K Deluxe... thought I'd branch off these results to their own thread at 2GB OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC DDR2-1150 Revisited + Asus P5K Deluxe

Everest Ultimate

Q6600 @7x490FSB 1:1
OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC @490Mhz 4-4-4-9

Now I'm truly getting the hang of tweaking Asus P5K Deluxe with OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC memory. Below is probably one of the fastest single 32M runs at 1:1 for 7x490FSB 4-4-4-9 settings.

Note, Kentsfield B3 stepping cpus are clock for clock slower in single instance Super Pi benchmarks compared with Core 2 Duo dual core B2 stepping cpus.

Also, 0311 Official bios increased my Q6600 Kentsfield cpu's max FSB from 485FSB to 490FSB without needing to raise CPU PLL volts from 1.5v to 1.6v as I needed on 0307 beta bios. With 0311 official bios and my Q6600 I've managed to sometimes boot into memtest @7x500FSB but on exiting bios, it doesn't boot up and needs power reset to get back into bios. So still working at it but already an improvement over 0307 beta bios

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
FSB Frequency: 490
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-980
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 9
TWR: 2
TRFC: 25
TWTR: 2
TRRD: 2
TRTP: 2
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.45v
CPU Voltage Reference: x0.63
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.25
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

Everest Ultimate Bandwidth

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eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

Q6600 B3 - Asus P5K Deluxe Strap Change

Swapped over to 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix 8500 dual channel kit.

It seems for my Q6600 B3 max FSB depends on how well memory modules can handle certain settings. Why ? Because my Q6600 B3 can hit 495-500FSB alot easier with this memory than other memory I've tested. Other memory hit max FSB around 490FSB.
Also I might have found a possible strap change for Asus P5K Deluxe (maybe only noticeable with very very tight subtimings ? ) @500FSB. At 7x500FSB, memtest86+ v1.70 reported 6216MB/s bandwidth. At 7x499FSB, memtest86+ v1.70 reported 6505MB/s bandwidth!.

Super Pi v1.50 32M
7x499FSB = 13m 28.313s
7x500FSB = 13m 37.844s

Everest Ultimate (MB/s)
7x499FSB vs 7x500FSB
Memory Read: 10809 vs 9964
Memory Write: 9096 vs 9115
Memory Copy: 9615 vs 9157
Memory Latency: 46.0ns vs 51.8ns

Settings Used

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
FSB Frequency: 499 & 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1248 & DDR2-1250
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 9
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 8
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.5v
CPU Voltage Reference: x0.63
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.40
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.70
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

Q6600 B3
7x499FSB
vs
7x500FSB

Strap change does exist it seems at 500FSB changes to lower memory bandwidth performance compared with 499FSB.

eva2000 · 11-05-2007, 11:51 AM

Highest FSB
with
Q6600 B3 ES Kentsfield Quad Core

Thanks to Asus P5K Deluxe and Crucial Ballistix 8500 memory, I've achieved my highest FSB ever to date with Q6600 B3 ES Kenstfield quad core cpu @502.7FSB

Settings Used

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
FSB Frequency: 499 boost from bios setfsb to 502.7FSB
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1248 setfsb to 628Mhz 5-5-5-9
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 9
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 8
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.5375v
CPU Voltage Reference: x0.63
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.45 (added 0.05v just for precautions when setfsb is limited by mem clocks)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.70
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

Not bad for an old Q6600 B3 ES that couldn't get more than 400-425FSB on Asus P5B Deluxe, limited at 350FSB on Asus 680i Striker, limited at 345FSB on Intel D975X Bad Axe 1, and 350FSB on DFI ICFX3200 at 9x and 400FSB at 7x or 8x.

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